STB128 | Youth Ministry + Pastor Kevin E1Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Kevin, where they swap stories about fishing (or, in Nathan’s case, the complete inability to catch anything). They discuss how our connection with God shifts through life’s changing seasons and the chaos of parenting. They also explore how spiritual growth doesn’t always happen in ...

STB127 | BSE | Maturity Requires Repentance E2BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott dive into what it takes to build spiritually mature relationships marked by humility, repentance, and growth. They explore how real connection requires more than surface-level friendship — it demands a willingness to confront sin, seek forgiveness, and walk in grace. They also ...

STB126 | BSE | Maturity Requires Repentance E1BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott dive into what it takes to build spiritually mature relationships marked by humility, repentance, and growth. They explore how real connection requires more than surface-level friendship — it demands a willingness to confront sin, seek forgiveness, and walk in grace. They also ...

STB125 | BSE | Real, Vulnerable Prayer E2BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott talk about what prayer truly is — and what it isn’t by looking at the disciples’ prayer in Matthew 6.5-14. Prayer isn’t just a monologue directed at God; it’s a real conversation with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They explore how ...

STB124 | BSE | Real, Vulnerable Prayer E1BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott talk about what prayer truly is — and what it isn’t by looking at the disciples’ prayer found in Matthew 6.5-14. Prayer isn’t just a monologue directed at God; it’s a real conversation with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They explore ...

STB123 | Convictions & Controversies + PhilNathan and Phil dive into some hot-button topics — they discuss convictions (opinions) on worship music and address the controversy surrounding certain churches’ cultures and the songs they produce. They also reveal the often judgmental tone of “heresy hunter” ministries that claim to defend the Gospel but sometimes miss the ...

STB122 | BSE | Philemon 21-25: Above & BeyondBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott wrap up Philemon 21–25 by highlighting Paul’s confidence that Philemon will go beyond what’s asked — not out of pressure, but because the gospel has truly transformed him. His obedience isn’t just submission to Paul, but evidence of the Holy Spirit’s work. ...

STB121 | BSE | Philemon 8-20: Messy ReconciliationBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott explore Philemon 8–20, where Paul models the gospel by stepping in on behalf of Onesimus, offering to repay his debt to Philemon. This powerful passage reveals that true reconciliation requires both repentance and forgiveness. Paul’s appeal goes beyond personal favor — it’s ...

STB120 | BSE | Philemon 1-7: A Good Believer’s ExampleBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott unpack Philemon 1–7 and Paul’s addressing of Philemon, Apphia, and Archippus — along with their whole house church — as a united community rather than just individuals. Within the context of Colossians 4.1-18 and “Ephesians” 6.21-24, the introduction of Philemon (1-7) illustrates ...

STB119 | BSE | Romans 8.26-39: Victorious In the FutureBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott discuss Romans 8.26-39, showing how we can share the same glory as Jesus and the Father. They also share how Christians are more than conquerors through Jesus, and nothing (except our own lack of faith) can remove us from God’s protection and ...

STB118 | BSE | Romans 8.1-25: Freedom from the PastBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott unpack Romans 8:1-25, revealing the choice we all face — living as children of God or of the devil. They explore how Christ’s death and resurrection conquered sin, death, and the enemy for believers, yet the full realization of this victory remains ...

STB117 | BSE | Romans 7: Flesh +/- SpiritBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott Frerking explore Romans 7, focusing on the tension of living under the law without the power of Jesus. They also discuss the hopeless cycle of striving to live good but without Christ and the freedom that comes only through living empowered by ...

STB116 | BSE | Romans 6: Set Free from SinBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott Frerking explore Romans 6, emphasizing that we are truly dead to sin but still have a choice of lordship—either sin (rebellion) or obedience (Jesus). They discuss the reality that we are always bearing fruit, and the type of fruit reveals whom we ...

STB115 | BSE | Romans 5: Choices MatterBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott Frerking discuss Romans 5 and how faith in Jesus requires risk, maturity, and endurance. We also share how sin is anything in opposition to our nature or design, that is, living as the image and likeness of God.

STB114 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E2Nathan and Phil dive into the tensions of growth — navigating confrontation, grace in freedom versus judgment in addiction, and forgiving repeat offenders. They discuss mediation, reconciliation, appropriate vulnerability, and what the fruit of the Spirit looks like in real life. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. ...

STB113 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E1Nathan talks with Phil about his dream of church planting — and how Lacey devastatingly crushed it. He reflects on key “waypoints” in his journey to freedom and writing UnLove, the shifting seasons of relationships, and his struggle with appreciating apologies. They also explore how God uses, and sometimes orchestrates, ...

STB112 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E3In this third part, Phil Reeves continues interviewing Nathan, where he dives into his struggle with people apologizing, why he hates accountability partners, and the devotionals that have shaped him. He shares his journey of learning to feel, wrestling with anger, trusting in God’s goodness, and the male role models ...

STB111 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E2In this second part, Phil Reeves continues interviewing Nathan, where he opens up about the weight of living a double life in his addiction to pornography, the pain of public church discipline after being a youth pastor who went to a strip club, and the redemption he and Lacey walked ...

STB110 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E1Phil Reeves interviews Nathan to uncover the real-life stories that inspired his book UnLove. In this heartfelt conversation, Nathan shares the personal experiences, struggles, and lessons that shaped the principles outlined in the book. From moments of heartbreak to breakthroughs of grace, he offers an honest look at the theology ...

STB109 | Coping & Resolving Loss + Sarah P2:E2Nathan continues his conversation with his friend, Sarah Frerking, where she vulnerably shares her journey through the devastating experiences of miscarriages and the loss of their firstborn son, Josiah. In this powerful discussion, Sarah reflects on how she processed her grief, initially in unhealthy ways, but eventually discovered a path ...

STB108 | Coping & Resolving Loss + Sarah P2:E1Nathan continues his conversation with his friend, Sarah Frerking, where she vulnerably shares her journey through the devastating experiences of miscarriages and the loss of their firstborn son, Josiah. In this powerful discussion, Sarah reflects on how she processed her grief, initially in unhealthy ways, but eventually discovered a path ...

STB107 | Grieving the Loss of a Child + Sarah P1Nathan talks with Sarah Frerking about the heartbreak of her miscarriages and losing her firstborn, Josiah. She opens up about the raw, overwhelming emotions of grief and the difficult, messy process of navigating devastating loss. She shares how she and her husband, Scott Frerking, held tightly to a hope-filled but ...

STB106 | BSE | Christmas: It’s Christian OriginsBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Christmas and its origins. They also discuss several Christmas traditions and why traditions are important to communities.

STB105 | BSE | Incarnation: Jesus + Flesh P2BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about the incarnation of Jesus — God becoming real humanity. They discuss how the New Testament reveals the fulfilled Hebrew prophesies of a real flesh-and-blood human messiah.

STB104 | Fathers + PhilNathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about the importance of our fathers and our need to resolve deficiencies and offenses that our fathers demonstrate toward us in our growing-up years. He also shares his journey with God the Father and how he resolved his distorted perceptions of Him.

STB103 | Meditation | Romans 11.33-36MEDITATION – Nathan shoots the breeze about Romans 11.33–36, emphasizing the importance of recognizing God’s infinite nature and our human limits as the starting point for studying or understanding Him. He also highlights how God’s greatness brings comfort, reminding us of His trustworthy and unchanging character.

STB102 | BSE | Incarnation: Jesus + Flesh P1BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about the messiness of perfection. They discuss the Scriptural word for perfection and how it also means completeness or maturity. They also reveal that we are ever becoming perfect while God is perfect.

STB101 | Meditation | Romans 8.12-17MEDITATION – Nathan shoots the breeze about Romans 8.12-17. He also discusses Galatians 4.1-7 and how our experience with our earthly dads impacts our relationship with our Heavenly Dad.

STB100 | PerseveranceNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about their 100th episode and what it means to persevere. They discuss how Christians have misdefined success due to false portrayals of people’s lives in the Scriptures.

STB099 | BSE | Making Tiny ChoicesBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about the messiness of perfection. They discuss the Scriptural word for perfection and how it also means completeness or maturity. They also reveal that we are ever becoming perfect while God is perfect.

STB098 | BSE | Revelation 19-22: The Kingdom of HeavenBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about Revelation chapters 19-22. They also discuss Matthew 23-25 and what the Red Sea Beast and the Land Lamb Beast represent.

STB097 | BSE | Revelation 15-18: The Beast & The BowlsBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about Revelation chapters 15-18. They also discuss the “rapture”, Jesus’ second coming, the antichrist(s), the abomination of desolation, and Daniel’s 70 weeks.

STB096 | BSE | Revelation 12-14: The Beauty & The BeastsBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about Revelation chapters 12-14. They also discuss how John laid out his visions in Revelation, either in linear movements through the destruction of Jerusalem or cyclical movements that reveal different perspectives of Jerusalem’s destruction.

STB095 | BSE | Revelation 8-11: The Kingdom & The TrumpetsBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about Revelation chapters 8-11. They also discuss how some modern authors and teachers have created empires around selling fear-based modern geopolitical content of Revelation.

STB094 | BSE | Revelation 4-7: The Throne & The ScrollBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about Revelation chapters 4-7. They also discuss the implications of Jesus fulfilling the entire Hebrew Scriptures and their implications on Revelation. Furthermore, John uses “hear” and “see” language to show when he is revealing the meaning behind what he ...

STB093 | BSE | Revelation 1-3: Prologue & The ChurchesBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about Revelation chapters 1-3. They also discuss false, fear-based views of Revelation, hermeneutics (principles in Bible Study), and how to read prophetic and apocalyptic Scriptures.

STB092 | BSE | Rejection, Hope, & JesusBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about the messiness of rejection. They discuss how feelings of being rejected can lead to either rebellions or religious mindsets and behaviors. Additionally, they share how it is only through the power of the Holy Spirit that one ...

STB091 | BSE | Messy Meets JesusBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about messy Christianity. They discuss their journeys of how Jesus pursued them amidst messy doubt and how, as believers, we pursue others amidst their messy doubt, along with how to resolve doubt.

STB090 | BSE | Faith Like A ChildBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about how our ability to approach God, our Heavenly Dad, directly affects our outlook and behavior within a circumstance or relationship. They discuss their journeys toward seeing God as a good Dad who does good things.

STB089 | BSE | Servant LeadershipBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about how Christianity is the ongoing process of leading and being led. They discuss how Jesus was our ultimate example and that serving others doesn’t mean we are slaves to them.

STB087 | BSE | Kingdom: God’s Plan, Our PartnershipBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about the Kingdom of Heaven and its present reality in a Christian’s life. They also reveal how the Hebrew Scriptures point to Jesus as the prophetic fulfillment of the Davidic Messianic King. *Fact Check: 40:25 – Psalm 38.6 ...

STB088 | BSE | Humble YourselfBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about humility and agreeing with God. They discuss how agreeing with God empowers Christians to defeat the enemy, spread Jesus’ Kingdom, and live sin-free.

STB086 | Forgiveness: Forgiving YourselfNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze by finishing their series on forgiveness. They discuss why forgiving yourself doesn’t help (but what you can do instead to set you free), along with how to resolve shame and condemnation.

STB085 | Forgiveness: Reasons To Not ForgiveNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about forgiveness and how it differs from reconciliation and restoration. They also discuss propitiation and how restitution works when repenting.

STB084 | Forgiveness: The Process of Reconciliation & RestorationNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about forgiveness and how it differs from reconciliation and restoration. They also discuss propitiation and how restitution works when repenting.

STB083 | Forgiveness: What It Is & Is NotNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about all things forgiveness. They also discuss what it is, what it isn’t, and some objections to it.

STB081 | InfluencersNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about “influencers”, social media, and how habitually scrolling creates an overwhelming compulsion to consume. They also discuss the discontent brought about by comparison due to curated “perfection” on social media platforms.

STB082 | BSE | Faith: the Supernatural, Spiritual Gifts, & the Holy SpiritBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about the Holy Spirit, faith, and spiritual gifts. They also discuss baptism or being filled with the Holy Spirit, cessationism, tongues, and how God answers prayer.

STB080 | BSE | Galatians 6.1-18: Christian MaturityBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Galatians 6.1-18. They discuss spiritual maturity, Christian generosity, and how the measure of our generosity directly impacts the generosity God demonstrates toward us. They also share how numbers-based evangelism is a fleshly, self-focused, approval-seeking false Gospel.

STB079 | BSE | Galatians 5.1-26: Flesh & SpiritBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Galatians 4.1-31. They discuss how the Law is immature and will (in 70 AD) melt away because the mature (Jesus) has come. They also discuss Paul’s analogies of the Law (Hagar) and the Promise (Sarah).

STB078 | BSE | Galatians 4.1-31: Law (Hagar/Israel) v Promise (Sarah/Jesus)BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Galatians 4.1-31. They discuss how the Law is immature and will (in 70 AD) melt away because the mature (Jesus) has come. They also discuss Paul’s analogies of the Law (Hagar) and the Promise (Sarah).

STB077 | BSE | Galatians 3.1-29: Law ≠ RelationshipBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Galatians 3.1-29. They discuss how the Law was not God’s original design; but rather, it was a babysitter for the immature Israelites who didn’t want a personal relationship with God.

STB076 | BSE | Galatians 2.1-21: Paul’s TestimonyBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Galatians 2.1-21. They discuss a timeline of Paul’s life up until visiting Jerusalem a second time to deliver financial support. They also talk about how Paul had to confront Peter, Barnabas, and other Jewish Christians over their ...

STB075 | BSE | Galatians 1.1-24: Date, Background, & SettingBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Galatians 1.1-24. They discuss how Paul is not bashful about sharing his story of Jesus’ redemption in his life. They also talk about the background, setting, and date of Galatians.

STB074 | BSE | Bible OdditiesBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about anger and how it is a behavior — words or actions — toward someone or something as a result of negative feelings being triggered in our hearts. They discuss how unhealthy anger (either internal ‘smolderer’ or external ...

STB073 | BSE | DepressionBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about anger and how it is a behavior — words or actions — toward someone or something as a result of negative feelings being triggered in our hearts. They discuss how unhealthy anger (either internal ‘smolderer’ or external ...

STB072 | BSE | AngerBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about anger and how it is a behavior — words or actions — toward someone or something as a result of negative feelings being triggered in our hearts. They discuss how unhealthy anger (either internal ‘smolderer’ or external ...

STB070 | BSE | FearBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about fear (a.k.a., worry, doubt, anxiety, etc.) being the lie that we are more caring, responsible, just, resourceful, loving, good, and redeeming than God. They discuss how fear is ultimately not an issue of circumstance, but rather, it ...

STB071 | BSE | RejectionBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about rejection and how it’s a belief that our acceptance (or acceptability) is dependent upon what we do, what we produce, or how we behave. They also discuss how this belief hinders peace of mind and confidence in ...

STB069 | BSE | 1 John 5.1-21: Live Sin FreeBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about how a Christian who receives the Heavenly Father’s love and forgiveness, is filled with the Spirit, and trusts Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection does not need to sin. They also discuss 1 John 5.1-21 and how believers ...

STB068 | BSE | 1 John 4.1-21: Sin Nature & Gnostic Origins of CalvinismBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about 1-3 John (1 John 3.4-24; 2 John 1-6; 3 John 2-12) and how our proximity to Jesus isn’t as important as our faith in him. They also discuss how what we practice (work at to improve) reveals ...

STB067 | BSE | 1 John 3.4-24 (2 John 1-6; 3 John 2-12): Practiced LifestylesBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about 1-3 John (1 John 3.4-24; 2 John 1-6; 3 John 2-12) and how our proximity to Jesus isn’t as important as our faith in him. They also discuss how what we practice (work at to improve) reveals ...

STB066 | BSE | 1 John 2.3-3.3 (2 John 7-11): The Antichrist and Human NatureBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about 1-3 John (2 John 2.3-3.3) and how our focus determines our world view — whether light and walking with the Holy Spirit or darkness and rejecting God’s empowerment. They also discuss antichrist, eschatology, and the Kingdom of ...

STB065 | BSE | 1 John 1.1-2.2: God is LightBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about 1-3 John (1 John 1.1-2.2), Gnostic influences in the modern church, and how believers do not have to sin. They also discuss how our ability to experience full joy may only come as a result of serving ...

STB064 | MiraclesNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about miracles they’ve experienced throughout their life and marriage. They also discuss how seeing miracles takes intentionality, humility, and release of expectations.

STB063 | BSE | Jude 17-24: Mercy & Bad TeachersBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Jude 17-24 and how believers are empowered by Jesus to live in mercy. They also discuss progressive Christianity and the practical tools Cultivate Relationships provides to keep believers from becoming bad leaders.

STB062 | BSE | Jude 1-16: Gnosticism & False Christian BeliefsBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Jude 1-16 and how believers are to live in a manner that agrees with their beliefs. They also discuss Gnosticism, apocryphal books, false teachers, along with how to avoid becoming a legalistic or liberal Christians.

STB061 | BSE | Gnosticism: The Ancient Origin of CalvinismBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION — Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Gnosticism and its impact on the content of the New Testament, along with its influence on the modern church. They also discuss ways Christians may be “gnostic” and not even realize it.

STB060 | Apocalypse: Pessimistic Views of Revelation & Eschatology P2Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about pessimistic fear-inducing American-centric interpretations of Revelation, Spirit-led decision-making, technology, whether or not Elon Musk is evil, and how social media is antagonistic to how our brains are wired. They also discuss how social justice, migrants, protestors, and people who tow the line are ...

STB059 | Apocalypse: Politics & Conspiracies P1Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about how a Christian should respond to politics, voting, conspiracies, and war. They also discuss how our view of the world, the Kingdom of God, and His images (people) will determine our hope and peace.

STB058 | EncouragementNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about how to encourage someone going through a hard time. They also discuss love languages, how to pray for someone, and how to respond when you don’t feel cared for.

STB057 | VisionNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about God giving people vision, hopes, and dreams, along with the downfalls of trying to fulfill these through self-imposed expectations for how those should be accomplished.

STB056 | Community + Pastor ScottNathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about attending church while also living in intentional community with others. They also share their thoughts on mega-churches and house churches.

STB055 | Scripture + JordanNathan shoots the breeze with Jordan Cornelius about the spectrums of Christianity and their views on the authority of Scripture.

STB054 | Media + AndrewNathan shoots the breeze with Andrew Orr about the role media production, social media, and live-streaming has in the modern church.

STB053 | StudyingNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about how to read and study the Bible with the Holy Spirit. Lots of recommended resources in this one!

STB052 | Men + ColeNathan shoots the breeze with a man’s man, Cole Bollier, about manly things and why men need to be more in touch with their feelings.

STB051 | Obedience + Pastor JeremyNathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Jeremy Cotton about hearing God’s voice, life transitions, and resolving disappointment.

STB050 | TechnologyNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about social media and how the more “connected” we are the more disconnected we actually become.

STB049 | Grieving + RebekahNathan shoots the breeze with Rebekah Jones about how to grieve the loss of loved one in a healthy way. They also discuss running, eating disorders, self-hatred, purity culture, and unhealthy perspectives in fundamental Christianity.

STB048 | Worship + KalenaNathan shoots the breeze with Kalena Cotton about how she connects with God. We discuss reading the Bible, worship, and prophetic words — including when and what words to receive, revisit, or reject.

STB047 | Hell + Pastor MichaelNathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Michael Barnard. We discuss the light topics of evangelism, salvation, and hell. We also discuss how to have healthy disagreements with other Christians and why some things aren’t worth debating.

STB046 | ExVangelical + KalenaNathan shoots the breeze with Kalena about why some people who grew up evangelical are deconstructing their faith and leaving the Church. They also discuss their views on progressive “Christianity” and why not having an anchor is dangerous.

STB045 | Traditions + AriannaNathan shoots the breeze with Arianna Steel, his adopted daughter and homeschool science student. This episode literally proves our show name. While discussing weekly traditions, they also touch on counseling, ASMR, pets, and so much more.

STB044 | LGBT + KalenaNathan shoots the breeze with Kalena Cotton, a long-time acquaintance, a worship leader, and former lesbian. They discuss Kalena’s journey into the “cult-like” embrace of the LGBT community along with her own struggles that led her there.

STB043 | Evolution + Joe & DanielNathan shoots the breeze with his friends Joe and Daniel about theology, science, and evolution. They also discuss recognizing the limitations of apologetics and seeing the value of focusing on relationship more than winning an argument.

STB042 | SurrenderNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about the important role a healthy community plays in freedom. They also reveal how Christian maturity is more of moving from “glory to glory” than it is “peeling away layers like an onion”.

STB041 | Faith + Jim & JoeNathan shoots the breeze with his friends, Jim and Joe. They discuss how fulfilling our God-given needs can become unhealthy. They also question whether the Bible is the only way we can know God and grow in our relationship with Him.

STB040 | ForgivenessNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about forgiveness, what it means, and how to live out of thorough forgiveness. They also discuss repeat offenders, accountability (and its pitfalls), and how to have encouraging friendships.

STB039 | SovereigntyNathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about a question they received about how to make a decision when God hasn’t given you direction. They also discuss free will, open theism, and their definition of God’s conviction.

STB038 | Cancer + DavidNathan shoots the breeze with David Root, a friend of his diagnosed with a rare and untreatable lung cancer. They discuss God’s goodness, healing, relationships, and the choices he makes to maintain a positive outlook.

STB037 | ObedienceIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about their education, qualifications, and the perceived foolishness in their walk with God. They also reveal the most important thing (and their biggest struggle) they’ve learned about success and God’s favor.

STB036 | PoliticsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about the subject they have avoided at all costs — politics. They discuss the mark of the beast, vaccines, and Nathan’s controversial End-Times beliefs.

STB035 | Leadership + Pastor ScottIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze again with Pastor Scott Frerking. They discuss spiritual authority, time management as a pastor, mutual submission, and unity between local church communities. You can learn more about Scott by visiting: https://hcftx.org/

STB034 | Homeschool 2.0In this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about homeschooling… again. They discuss lessons they’ve learned over the years and the changes they’re making for this school year. One of the biggest changes they’re implementing is a mindset that comes from their friend, Shannon Guerra. She is the author ...

STB033 | Intentionality + Jim & LaurenIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Jim & Lauren Joiner, volunteer Cultivate Marriage leaders. They discuss the intentionality it takes to be in healthy relationships with others. They talk about why it may be difficult to receive the love others extend toward us and why it is important ...

STB032 | Community + JoleneIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with his mom, Jolene Beach. They discuss divorce, marriage, and God’s provision. They also talk about the importance of having people in our lives — even if they say stupid things from time to time.

STB031 | Suicide + JordanIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze again with Jordan Cornelius. They talk about theology, mental health, and the importance of community and relationships in preventing suicide.

STB030 | PeaceIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about the season of life they are in and how God has brought them to a place of peace. They each share their perspectives on where God has them in ministry, as a parent, and in their personal lives. They also ...

STB029 | Co-Parenting + JeremyIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with his oldest brother, Jeremy. Jeremy has a daughter with whom he shares custody. We discuss when and how to compromise, along with how to maintain consistency. We also discuss our experience growing up in church and how discipleship and evangelism may not ...

STB028 | Control + JohnIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with John Barclay, a husband, dad, software security salesman, and a volunteer leader with Cultivate. We discuss how the home he grew up in affected his marriage. He talks about his struggle with needing to be in control and learn healthy forms of ...

STB027 | Anxiety + LaurenIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Lauren Barclay, a wife, mom, and former volunteer leader with Cultivate. The trauma Lauren faced growing up resulted in anxiety that often fed thoughts of her circumstances ending in worst-case scenarios. She talks about how this anxiety impacted her marriage and parenting.

STB026 | DevotionsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about devotional times and bible reading. The “Christianese” is strong in this one. They both share how their times with God have changed throughout their lives, along with some recommendations that may help you get more out of your quiet times. ...

STB025 | Science + DanielIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Daniel Diemer, a senior power grid operator for a Texas electric company. In his time in the Navy, he was a nuclear electrician on a submarine. They discuss evolution and the role religion plays in science.

STB024 | CultishIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about spiritual abuse. Lacey shares her story of being at Master’s Commission — a ministry school that marginalized unpopular students and treated dropouts like they had given up on Jesus himself. Nathan describes what it was like growing up in a ...

STB023 | AccountabilityIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about accountability partners. *SPOILER ALERT* They do not like them. But they do talk about something that has been proven very effective for changing unhealthy mindsets and habits. Also, they fight about their new studio/office arrangement.

STB022 | DecisionsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about how they make decisions. Lacey tells the story of how they pursued her healthcare and surgery (and the decisions they made along the way). They also decide how they will parent their girls right before your ears.

STB021 | RandomIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze by asking each other random questions. From politics to childhood fears, they ask questions from a book they used to get to know each other while they were dating.

STB020 | MessyIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about their ideal dates, how the Holy Spirit has been speaking to them lately, and — for the first time in their marriage — how God has been calling them in directions for this season of life.

STB019 | Ministry + Pastor JasonIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Jason Teague, a United Methodist Pastor. They discuss the apprehensions of getting into full-time ministry. You can learn more about Jason by visiting: https://burnetmethodist.org/

STB018 | InfertilityIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey share their struggle with infertility, along with some of the more common inappropriate things they hear about adoption. This episode will be encouraging to those struggling with infertility and secondary infertility. Also, this discussion will help you know what to say to someone struggling ...

STB017 | Depression + JordanIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Jordan Cornelius, a former Marine and a personal student of N.T. Wright. They talk about depression, the importance of mental health, and how the Spirit of God helps them.

STB016 | Time + Pastor DonnaIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Donna Shaw, pastor, ministry director, and the Chief Operations Officer of the business she and her husband own. She’s a wife, homeschool mom, and so much more. They discuss time management, how she develops volunteers, and how she sets realistic goals for ...

STB015 | Struggles + CateIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Cate Morris, an author, speaker, worship leader, and evangelist. She and her husband, Jamin, are commercial fishermen in Homer, Alaska. They discuss her new book, Beyond the Siege. Nathan read her book during one of the darkest seasons of his entire life. ...

STB014 | Siblings + The Steel BrothersIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with his older brothers, Jeremy and Josh Steel. This is the only episode that had to be edited due to how breezy it was. In the middle of all the jokes, sarcasm, and laughing, they discuss what it has taken for them to ...

STB013 | BlessingIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about the blessings they’ve experienced as a couple and family over the past 16 years. One of the biggest keys to maintaining emotional, mental, and relational freedom is thankfulness. They received some disappointing news just before recording this episode, so they ...

STB012 | Family + Pastor ScottIn this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Scott Frerking, Hill Country Fellowship Church’s lead pastor in Burnet, Texas. He and his wife, Sarah, are parents to five children. Scott and his wife were Nathan and Lacey’s marriage counselors almost 15 years ago. They talk about their wives (and the ...

STB011 | PetsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about their pets. They grieve the passing of one of their favorite pups they’ve owned. This transitions to stories of all the pets they’ve had through their marriage. *TRIGGER WARNING* Some of them do not end well. They also share some ...

STB010 | BracesIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about Lacey’s new speech impediment. They also share an encouraging thought that may change how you view yourself. They share ten things they appreciate to celebrate the 10th episode of Shoot the Breeze.

STB009 | TraditionsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about being back in their studio and discuss the horror stories from past Valentine’s Days. They also discuss several traditions their family has and why they’re important to them. They also share some tips that can help your family create meaningful ...

STB008 | ShelteredIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about taking their work home because global warming officially hit Texas, and they are FREEZING! As they shelter, they agree to disagree about showing up late to places, the Twilight series, and what translation of the Bible is best.

STB007 | QuestionsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze and respond to your questions and your responses. Some of the topics covered in the episode are how to find peace amidst chaos, living whole amidst a divorce, how to find contentment through singleness, and how to start dating post-divorce.

STB006 | ReadingIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze by reminiscing about what was “cool” when they were growing up. Also, they reveal their secret shame and a few books they recommend… and some they don’t. They are also joined by a special guest, their dog, Lulu.

STB005 | IrelandIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about their time in Ireland, along with their ministry failures and fact checks. Lacey also reveals how the lack of conviction in one’s life leads to unnecessary pain.

STB004 | HomeschoolIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about homeschooling and how it took a global pandemic to get them to do it again. They also discuss colloquialisms, playing the lottery, hiding money in couches, and why even good habits can be bad for you.

STB003 | RegretsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about their love of fish, the stomach flu, and an embarrassing encounter Nathan had with Pastor Mark Driscoll. Nathan also blows the whistle on Lacey, revealing a very dangerous driving issue she has.

STB002 | CensorshipIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze by defending their views of hotel key cards in a segment called “Agree to Disagree”. We also discuss why censorship is dangerous and how censorship within relationships can lead to immaturity.

STB001 | FirstsIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey discuss firsts (e.g., first appearances, first dates, and first kisses). They also reveal their favorite and worst gifts, and present a surprise segment called “Why Do I Care?” where they discuss why certain theological topics are important. The first important topic: Eschatology (aka, The ...