SHOOT THE BREEZE
Our podcast celebrates the messiness of life, relationships, and Christianity. Mostly, it is us shooting the breeze (sometimes with guests) while occasionally saying something important. We hope you enjoy!
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STB162 | STB162 | Why “Just Stop” Doesn’t Work for Addiction + Jenni
Monday, March 16, 2026
In this episode, Lacey sits down with life and recovery coach Jenni Hubby to talk about addiction, recovery, and God’s heart for those walking through it. Drawing from her own journey into sobriety and decades of experience helping others, Jenni explores common misconceptions Christians often have about addiction. Together they discuss why simply “stopping” a behavior is not the whole story, how faith and practical steps work together in recovery, and what it looks like to walk toward lasting healing and restored identity.| VIEW EPISODE & LINKS |
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STB161 | BSE | Hebrews 8.13-10.18 E2
Monday, January 26, 2026
BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott continue their study through Hebrews by confronting how easily believers drift back into external rules, self-effort, and spiritual performance. This episode presses into the heart of the gospel: Jesus didn’t partially replace the old covenant — he fulfilled and rendered it obsolete. The conversation exposes how law-based thinking (a life built on the 10 Commandments) still shapes worship, discipleship, and judgment today, and re-centers salvation as trusting Jesus’ finished work while living empowered by the Holy Spirit, not managed by religious systems. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode two.*| VIEW LINKS & NOTES |
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BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION (BSE) is a series within our podcast, Shoot the Breeze, that explores the Scriptures, Christianity, and the Church from a ministry leadership and pastoral perspective.
PODCAST PLAYLISTS
We have several playlists of subjects we've discussed on our podcast. These playlists include:
FAITH In this playlist, Nathan and Phil explore faith as more than belief — it’s relational trust in the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and the Church. Each episode walks through how faith grows through surrender, obedience, and partnership with God. Together they uncover how faith transforms hardship into maturity, offense into reconciliation, and weakness into dependence on the Spirit. This series invites believers to see faith not as performance or perfection, but as a lifelong cultivation of intimacy and confidence in God’s goodness.
FORGIVENESS In this playlist, Nathan and Lacey unpack the messy, misunderstood process of forgiveness — what it really means, what it doesn’t, and why it’s essential for healing. They explore the difference between forgiveness, reconciliation, and restoration, as well as how true repentance involves both propitiation and restitution. In the final episode, they address the myth of “forgiving yourself” and offer a better path to freedom from shame and condemnation. This series is honest, practical, and rooted in biblical truth for anyone seeking wholeness in relationships and with God.
GNOSTICISM (& Jesus' Humanity) In this playlist, Nathan and _ tackle the lingering influence of Gnosticism—both in the early church and today. Through conversations on Jude 1–16, 1 John 4, and the nature of Jesus’ full humanity, they unpack how hidden Gnostic thinking still shapes modern Christian life. Together, they challenge believers to live out a faith that aligns with truth, reject both legalism and compromise, and embrace spiritual maturity, freedom, and victory in Jesus.
IDENTITY In this playlist, Nathan and _ explore identity not as something lost, but something distorted — and now being restored through Jesus. From image and worth, to corruption, redemption, restoration, and participation, the series traces how God never abandoned His design for humanity. Instead of labeling people as “broken at the core,” these conversations reveal how the Spirit rebuilds identity through truth, submission, and relationship. Identity isn’t earned or repaired by effort — it’s recovered as we align ourselves with God’s original purpose and ongoing work in us.
UNLOVE In this playlist, Phil Reeves interviews Nathan about the deeply personal journey and real-life experiences that inspired and shaped his book UnLove. Nathan opens up about living a double life and his addiction to pornography, facing public church discipline, walking through redemption with his wife and church, coming to terms with having a terminal disease, and the hard-earned lessons that shaped his theology. They explore topics like forgiveness, the tension between empathy and confronting sin, and how God uses brokenness for transformation and maturity. Nathan shares his honest struggles with accountability, apologizing, anger, unmet dreams, and how God's goodness and provision was revealed through it all. This series offers a raw, grace-filled look at spiritual growth, relational healing, and what it really means to mature in Jesus.
SALVATION In this playlist, Nathan and Phil reshape the conversation around salvation — not as a legal escape from sin, but as a relational restoration to the life God intended. Together they uncover how salvation frees us from rebellion and distortion while freeing us to live empowered by the Holy Spirit. Through Genesis, Luke 15, and Paul’s letters, the series explores redemption, repentance, renewal, and the ongoing transformation of believers. Salvation becomes more than a moment — it’s the daily journey of becoming fully alive in God’s design.
ROMANS 5-8 In this playlist, Nathan and _ walk through Romans 5–8, unpacking the journey from sin and struggle to freedom and glory in Jesus. They explore how faith in Jesus requires risk, maturity, and endurance, and define sin as anything that opposes our God-given design. Together, they examine our daily choice of lordship — whether to serve sin or walk in obedience to Jesus — and reveal how the kind of fruit we bear exposes who we truly follow. They tackle the tension of striving under the law without Jesus, and the freedom that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Romans 8 brings the hope of our adoption as children of God, the promise of future glory, and the assurance that nothing — except unbelief — can separate us from God's love. This series invites believers into a deeper understanding of grace, identity, and victory in Jesus
GALATIANS In this playlist, Nathan and _ walk through the book of Galatians, exploring Paul’s bold defense of the gospel and his call to spiritual maturity. From Paul’s personal story of redemption to confronting legalism and fear-based religion, they unpack how the Law was never God's final plan — Jesus was. These conversations highlight the difference between spiritual immaturity and Spirit-led freedom, exposing false gospels rooted in performance, pride, or approval-seeking. Real maturity means living by faith, walking in the Spirit, and embracing the generosity and freedom found only in Jesus.
PHILEMON In this playlist, Nathan and _ walk through the letter to Philemon, revealing how the gospel transforms relationships, community, and personal responsibility. From Paul’s greeting to Philemon, Apphia, Archippus, and their house church, to his bold request on behalf of Onesimus, the message is clear: gospel living is communal, sacrificial, and Spirit-empowered. They explore how true reconciliation requires both repentance and forgiveness, and how Paul models this by stepping in as a redeemer. Ultimately, Paul’s confidence in Philemon isn’t rooted in obligation but in transformation — the evidence of a life changed by the Gospel.
1-3 JOHN In this playlist, Nathan and _ journey through the letters of 1-3 John and the modern church’s quiet struggle with Gnostic thinking. They unpack how distorted views of sin, humanity, and holiness still shape Christian belief — and how Scripture calls us to something better. From exposing false teachings to embracing the full humanity of Jesus (while assuming his divinity), these conversations explore how joy, maturity, and spiritual victory come through truth, obedience, and love. Believers are challenged to reject rebellion, practice righteousness, and live empowered by the Spirit to reflect the heart of Jesus in a confused world.
JUDE In this playlist, Nathan and _ explore the subtle ways Gnosticism still shapes modern Christianity — often without us knowing it. Through conversations rooted in the book of Jude, they confront false teaching, legalism, progressive Christianity, and spiritual immaturity. Together, they unpack how believers can live lives that align with truth, walk in mercy, and lead others well by embracing Jesus' empowerment and rejecting distorted versions of the gospel.
REVELATION In this playlist, Nathan and Phil walk through the book of Revelation, cutting through fear-based interpretations and pop-culture confusion. They explore how John’s visions are rooted in Hebrew Scripture, often defined by the text itself through “hear” and “see” cues. From apocalyptic imagery and prophetic language to topics like the rapture, second coming, antichrist(s), and Daniel’s 70 weeks, they offer grounded, contextual insight that challenges sensationalism, futurism, and dispensationalism. Whether Revelation unfolds in linear or cyclical movements, the message is clear: Jesus is the fulfillment of Scripture, and the point of Revelation isn’t fear, but faithful understanding.
STB139 | Cultivating Thankfulness – TFB:P6 August 25, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey walk through Step Five of The Freedom Booklet, highlighting how gratitude becomes a catalyst to begin the process of the Holy Spirit healing our wounds. They explain that when we give thanks — even for painful experiences — we are not excusing the hurt but acknowledging God’s presence and redemptive work in the middle of it. Gratitude shifts our focus from what was lost to how God is redeeming, transforming bitterness into peace and despair into hope. This conversation shows how thanksgiving is more than a discipline; it’s a doorway to freedom, helping us release pain, embrace healing, and see our lives through the lens of God working all things for our good (that is, Him making what was evil and broken into what will be beneficial for us).
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STB138 | Resolving Unmet Needs & Desires – TFB:P5 August 18, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey walk through Step Four of The Freedom Booklet, exploring how unmet needs and unfulfilled desires often drive us to believe lies about God, ourselves, and others. These lies, formed through pain or disappointment, create patterns that keep us striving for fulfillment in unhealthy ways. They share how letting the Holy Spirit expose these false beliefs and reveal God’s truth leads to the genuine satisfaction of our deepest needs — needs for love, belonging, security, and purpose. This isn’t about suppressing desire, but about allowing God to meet it in ways that bring lasting peace and transformation.
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STB137 | Unhealthy Fruit from Unresolved Pain – TFB:P4 August 11, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey work through Step Three of The Freedom Booklet, focusing on coping behaviors, inner vows, and hidden beliefs that form in response to unresolved pain, sin, or trauma. They explain how these patterns — often made to protect oneself — eventually lead us to react instead of respond, producing fruit that doesn’t reflect the life of Jesus. With practical examples and real vulnerability, they show how honest confession, thoughtful self-reflection, and Holy Spirit-led insight are key to uprooting what’s been buried. This step isn’t about shame — it’s about clarity, healing, and lasting transformation.
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STB136 | Unearthing the Roots of Pain – TFB:P3 August 4, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey will guide you through Step Two of The Freedom Booklet, focusing on thoughts, beliefs, and feelings surrounding past offenses, losses, or sins. They explore why revisiting old wounds doesn’t mean we’ve failed to resolve them — it just means we’re allowing the Holy Spirit to expose unresolved layers of pain, perspective, and healing. With practical examples, they show how each layer of pain may call for fresh surrender. Whether you’re overly expressive or emotionally shut down, this step is about letting God search your heart and bring clarity to how past moments still affect you — and those around you — today.
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STB135 | Healing Your Heart Soil – TFB:P2 July 28, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey walk through how to examine the deeper roots of what’s producing fruit in your life — both good and bad. Using The Freedom Booklet, they talk about how trauma, self-protection, sin, and even religious performance can masquerade as strength while actually stunting spiritual growth. They challenge listeners to get honest about what’s growing in their lives and invite the Holy Spirit to help identify what needs to be uprooted, what needs to be healed, and how to move toward producing healthy fruit.
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STB134 | Pulling Weeds and Planting Truth – TFB:P1 July 21, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey introduce The Freedom Booklet, a practical tool designed to help you uproot the offenses, losses, and sins that keep producing bad fruit in your life. Using the analogy of invasive garden vines, they explain how sin, trauma, and false beliefs — if left alone — can overtake our hearts and relationships. They unpack how the Holy Spirit, Scripture, and community help address issues at the root level. Whether you’re confronting sin, walking through grief, or releasing someone through forgiveness, this tool is not a formula — but an invitation to let God have His opinion of your life’s experience and transform your inner life from the ground up.
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STB129 | Youth Ministry + Pastor Kevin E2 June 16, 2025
Nathan and Pastor Kevin continue their discussion about the challenges of balancing ministry, marriage, and parenting. As a Youth Pastor, Kevin reflects on his desire to be a supplemental voice in students’ lives — not a replacement for spiritually engaged parents. Together, they discuss how youth ministry should support what’s happening at home, not carry it. Kevin opens up about the pressures of leadership, the importance of putting his marriage first, and the lessons learned from marriage counseling and personal failures. He also shares how his upbringing shaped his views on emotional vulnerability — and why he’s committed to being open with his wife. They dive deep into parenting, calling out the dangers of disengagement and the power of simply being present. Kevin’s advice to parents: ask real questions, build trust daily, and don’t let fear or shame keep you from connecting with your kids. Whether you’re in ministry or ...VIEW EPISODE
STB128 | Youth Ministry + Pastor Kevin E1 June 9, 2025
Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Kevin, where they swap stories about fishing (or, in Nathan’s case, the complete inability to catch anything). They discuss how our connection with God shifts through life’s changing seasons and the chaos of parenting. They also explore how spiritual growth doesn’t always happen in quiet solitude, but often through the loud, messy, and beautiful moments of ordinary life. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode one.*
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STB123 | Convictions & Controversies + Phil May 5, 2025
Nathan and Phil dive into some hot-button topics — they discuss convictions (opinions) on worship music and address the controversy surrounding certain churches’ cultures and the songs they produce. They also reveal the often judgmental tone of “heresy hunter” ministries that claim to defend the Gospel but sometimes miss the heart of grace. They explore how believers can engage with non-Christians — when it’s wise, when it’s not, and how to navigate those relationships without compromising faith or integrity.
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STB114 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E2 March 3, 2025
Nathan and Phil dive into the tensions of growth — navigating confrontation, grace in freedom versus judgment in addiction, and forgiving repeat offenders. They discuss mediation, reconciliation, appropriate vulnerability, and what the fruit of the Spirit looks like in real life. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode two.*
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