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SHOOT THE BREEZE

Our podcast celebrates the messiness of life, relationships, and Christianity. Mostly, it is us shooting the breeze (sometimes with guests) while occasionally saying something important. We hope you enjoy!


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STB139 | Cultivating Thankfulness – TFB:P6 August 25, 2025STB139 | Cultivating Thankfulness - TFB:P6In this episode, Nathan and Lacey walk through Step Five of The Freedom Booklet, highlighting how gratitude becomes a catalyst to begin the process of the Holy Spirit healing our wounds. They explain that when we give thanks — even for painful experiences — we are not excusing the hurt but acknowledging God’s presence and redemptive work in the middle of it. Gratitude shifts our focus from what was lost to how God is redeeming, transforming bitterness into peace and despair into hope. This conversation shows how thanksgiving is more than a discipline; it’s a doorway to freedom, helping us release pain, embrace healing, and see our lives through the lens of God working all things for our good (that is, Him making what was evil and broken into what will be beneficial for us). VIEW EPISODE

STB138 | Resolving Unmet Needs & Desires – TFB:P5 August 18, 2025STB138 | Resolving Unmet Needs & Desires - TFB:P5In this episode, Nathan and Lacey walk through Step Four of The Freedom Booklet, exploring how unmet needs and unfulfilled desires often drive us to believe lies about God, ourselves, and others. These lies, formed through pain or disappointment, create patterns that keep us striving for fulfillment in unhealthy ways. They share how letting the Holy Spirit expose these false beliefs and reveal God’s truth leads to the genuine satisfaction of our deepest needs — needs for love, belonging, security, and purpose. This isn’t about suppressing desire, but about allowing God to meet it in ways that bring lasting peace and transformation. VIEW EPISODE

STB137 | Unhealthy Fruit from Unresolved Pain – TFB:P4 August 11, 2025STB137 | Unhealthy Fruit from Unresolved Pain - TFB:P4In this episode, Nathan and Lacey work through Step Three of The Freedom Booklet, focusing on coping behaviors, inner vows, and hidden beliefs that form in response to unresolved pain, sin, or trauma. They explain how these patterns — often made to protect oneself — eventually lead us to react instead of respond, producing fruit that doesn’t reflect the life of Jesus. With practical examples and real vulnerability, they show how honest confession, thoughtful self-reflection, and Holy Spirit-led insight are key to uprooting what’s been buried. This step isn’t about shame — it’s about clarity, healing, and lasting transformation. VIEW EPISODE

STB136 | Unearthing the Roots of Pain – TFB:P3 August 4, 2025STB136 | Unearthing the Roots of Pain - TFB:P3In this episode, Nathan and Lacey will guide you through Step Two of The Freedom Booklet, focusing on thoughts, beliefs, and feelings surrounding past offenses, losses, or sins. They explore why revisiting old wounds doesn’t mean we’ve failed to resolve them — it just means we’re allowing the Holy Spirit to expose unresolved layers of pain, perspective, and healing. With practical examples, they show how each layer of pain may call for fresh surrender. Whether you’re overly expressive or emotionally shut down, this step is about letting God search your heart and bring clarity to how past moments still affect you — and those around you — today. VIEW EPISODE

STB135 | Healing Your Heart Soil – TFB:P2 July 28, 2025STB135 | Healing Your Heart Soil - TFB:P2In this episode, Nathan and Lacey walk through how to examine the deeper roots of what’s producing fruit in your life — both good and bad. Using The Freedom Booklet, they talk about how trauma, self-protection, sin, and even religious performance can masquerade as strength while actually stunting spiritual growth. They challenge listeners to get honest about what’s growing in their lives and invite the Holy Spirit to help identify what needs to be uprooted, what needs to be healed, and how to move toward producing healthy fruit. VIEW EPISODE

STB134 | Pulling Weeds and Planting Truth – TFB:P1 July 21, 2025STB134 | Pulling Weeds and Planting Truth - TFB:P1In this episode, Nathan and Lacey introduce The Freedom Booklet, a practical tool designed to help you uproot the offenses, losses, and sins that keep producing bad fruit in your life. Using the analogy of invasive garden vines, they explain how sin, trauma, and false beliefs — if left alone — can overtake our hearts and relationships. They unpack how the Holy Spirit, Scripture, and community help address issues at the root level. Whether you’re confronting sin, walking through grief, or releasing someone through forgiveness, this tool is not a formula — but an invitation to let God have His opinion of your life’s experience and transform your inner life from the ground up. VIEW EPISODE

STB129 | Youth Ministry + Pastor Kevin E2 June 16, 2025STB129 | Youth Ministry + Pastor Kevin E2Nathan and Pastor Kevin continue their discussion about the challenges of balancing ministry, marriage, and parenting. As a Youth Pastor, Kevin reflects on his desire to be a supplemental voice in students’ lives — not a replacement for spiritually engaged parents. Together, they discuss how youth ministry should support what’s happening at home, not carry it. Kevin opens up about the pressures of leadership, the importance of putting his marriage first, and the lessons learned from marriage counseling and personal failures. He also shares how his upbringing shaped his views on emotional vulnerability — and why he’s committed to being open with his wife. They dive deep into parenting, calling out the dangers of disengagement and the power of simply being present. Kevin’s advice to parents: ask real questions, build trust daily, and don’t let fear or shame keep you from connecting with your kids. Whether you’re in ministry or ...VIEW EPISODE

STB128 | Youth Ministry + Pastor Kevin E1 June 9, 2025STB128 | Youth Ministry + Pastor Kevin E1Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Kevin, where they swap stories about fishing (or, in Nathan’s case, the complete inability to catch anything). They discuss how our connection with God shifts through life’s changing seasons and the chaos of parenting. They also explore how spiritual growth doesn’t always happen in quiet solitude, but often through the loud, messy, and beautiful moments of ordinary life. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode one.* VIEW EPISODE

STB123 | Convictions & Controversies + Phil May 5, 2025STB123 | Convictions & Controversies + PhilNathan and Phil dive into some hot-button topics — they discuss convictions (opinions) on worship music and address the controversy surrounding certain churches’ cultures and the songs they produce. They also reveal the often judgmental tone of “heresy hunter” ministries that claim to defend the Gospel but sometimes miss the heart of grace. They explore how believers can engage with non-Christians — when it’s wise, when it’s not, and how to navigate those relationships without compromising faith or integrity. VIEW EPISODE

STB114 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E2 March 3, 2025STB114 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E2Nathan and Phil dive into the tensions of growth — navigating confrontation, grace in freedom versus judgment in addiction, and forgiving repeat offenders. They discuss mediation, reconciliation, appropriate vulnerability, and what the fruit of the Spirit looks like in real life. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode two.* VIEW EPISODE