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SHOOT THE BREEZE

Our podcast celebrates the messiness of life, relationships, and Christianity. Mostly, it is us shooting the breeze (sometimes with guests) while occasionally saying something important. We hope you enjoy!


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STB163 | 6 Months Later: Recovery, Humility, & Hope August 3, 2026STB163 | 6 Months Later: Recovery, Humility, & HopeIn this episode, Nathan and Lacey sit down six months after a season of Nathan’s failure and share an honest update on what God has been doing in their lives. They discuss repentance, recovery, counseling, accountability, learning to recognize vulnerability, and the importance of Nathan addressing root issues instead of just behaviors. They also reflect on the impact on their family, the humility they’ve gained, and the hope they’ve found as they continue walking the long road of healing together. VIEW EPISODE

STB162 | Why “Just Stop” Doesn’t Work for Addiction + Jenni March 16, 2026STB162 | Why “Just Stop” Doesn’t Work for Addiction + JenniIn this episode, Lacey sits down with life and recovery coach Jenni Hubby to talk about addiction, recovery, and God’s heart for those walking through it. Drawing from her own journey into sobriety and decades of experience helping others, Jenni explores common misconceptions Christians often have about addiction. Together they discuss why simply “stopping” a behavior is not the whole story, how faith and practical steps work together in recovery, and what it looks like to walk toward lasting healing and restored identity. VIEW EPISODE

Announcement & Prayer Request February 6, 2026Announcement & Prayer RequestThere is no easy way to start this description. So I will get right into it. On January 16, 2026, it came to light that I had been engaging in inappropriate conversations with a woman and with chatbots through apps and texting, seeking and soliciting inappropriate images. Our daughters first discovered this, and in that moment, I did not tell them the truth. It was only after several hours of conversation between Lacey and me that the full extent of what had been happening came to light. This is in addition to something we shared with our board in the fall of 2025 — that I had returned to pornography for about 9 months after experiencing sixteen years of freedom. There is no excuse for the choices I made. They were sinful, manipulative, deceptive, and deeply hurtful to my wife and girls. Bringing this into the light is incredibly painful and embarrassing to my ...VIEW EPISODE

STB149 | BSE | Salvation: Our Origin November 3, 2025STB149 | BSE | Salvation: Our OriginBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Phil kick off a new four-part series on Salvation, exploring what it means to be rescued, restored, and made new through Jesus. They unpack how salvation is more than escaping sin or judgment — it’s about relational redemption, daily transformation, and becoming who the Father always designed us to be. This conversation redefines salvation as the starting point of a life lived in partnership with God, not merely a ticket to heaven. VIEW EPISODE

STB148 | BSE | Faith: The Church October 27, 2025STB148 | BSE | Faith: The ChurchBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Phil wrap up the discussion on Faith in discussing the Church, exploring what it means to trust God’s design for His body even when people fail us. Through personal stories and Scripture, they unpack leadership wounds, offense, and the enduring promise of Jesus in Matthew 16 — that his Church will prevail. VIEW EPISODE

STB144 | Leading Others through the Freedom Booklet – TFB:P11 September 29, 2025STB144 | Leading Others through the Freedom Booklet - TFB:P11In this episode, Nathan and Lacey equip listeners to walk others through the Freedom Booklet. They cover two practical formats — intentional one-on-one meetings and small groups (typically 2–4 participants) with a leader and co-leader — and share concrete best practices: set dates and timelines, provide accountability and simple hospitality (quiet space, coffee, childcare), keep leaders as facilitators (not counselors), enforce confidentiality and speaking rules, use the instructional videos, check in between sessions, and always allow the Holy Spirit to lead. It’s a practical, encouragement-filled guide for helping people move from stuck to free. VIEW EPISODE

STB143 | Planting Truth – TFB:P10 September 22, 2025STB143 | Planting Truth - TFB:P10In this episode, Nathan and Lacey guide listeners through the last step of The Freedom Booklet, Step Nine: Receive and Replace — a transformative process of letting go of lies and replacing them with the Holy Spirit’s truth. Rather than simply releasing pain or sin, this step invites you to actively receive what Jesus is speaking over you, aligning your heart with His Word and stepping into lasting freedom. They explain how this isn’t just a cognitive shift but an invitation to action — hearing from God, walking in obedience, and marking the moment as a testimony of His work. This process closes the loop on the past and launches you forward into a future of hope and healing. VIEW EPISODE

STB142 | Releasing Control of the Harvest – TFB:P9 September 15, 2025STB142 | Releasing Control of the Harvest - TFB:P9In this episode, Nathan and Lacey discuss Step Eight — release and blessing — the part of resolving sin, loss, and offense that often gets overlooked but is essential to true freedom. Drawing from Matthew 5 and Romans 12, they show how the process of freedom is incomplete without releasing our expectations, debts, and hurts to God, whether in offense, loss, or personal sin. Release means surrendering control, shame, or unmet expectations and entrusting them fully to God’s justice and healing. But it doesn’t stop there — release flows into blessing, choosing to sacrificially pray for good even for those who have wounded us. As they share stories of transformation, they reveal how this process breaks bitterness, redirects our hearts, and opens the door to healing, freedom, and restored perspective in Jesus. VIEW EPISODE

STB141 | Pulling Weeds of Bitterness – TFB:P8 September 8, 2025STB141 | Pulling Weeds of Bitterness - TFB:P8In this episode, Nathan and Lacey step into the hard but freeing process of forgiveness. Scripture makes it clear that forgiving others is not optional, yet it often feels impossible. Forgiveness is more than ignoring the hurt or pretending it didn’t happen — it’s canceling the debt someone owes us and releasing them, even when what they did was real and painful. Through practical steps and honest reflection, you’ll learn how forgiveness reorients your heart, releases expectations, and opens the door for God’s healing power to work in your life. Discover how choosing forgiveness — even when it feels like obedience without emotion — creates space for true freedom. VIEW EPISODE

STB140 | Turning the Heart Soil – TFB:P7 September 1, 2025STB140 | Turning the Heart Soil - TFB:P7In this episode, Nathan and Lacey explore Jesus’ parable of the unforgiving servant and how it reveals our tendency to demand payment from others when we fail to rest in God’s forgiveness. They discuss the real meaning of repentance — more than admitting fault, it’s a Spirit-led reorientation of our hearts toward God. Therefore, true repentance acknowledges not only our outward actions but also the unhealthy thoughts and attitudes we’ve carried. Through confession and surrender, we invite God’s cleansing, release the grip of unforgiveness, and step into healing. This conversation shows that repentance is not punishment but freedom — the path where brokenness gives way to a restored relationship with God and others. VIEW EPISODE