SHOOT THE BREEZE
Our podcast celebrates the messiness of life, relationships, and Christianity. Mostly, it is us shooting the breeze (sometimes with guests) while occasionally saying something important. We hope you enjoy!
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STB162 | STB162 | Why “Just Stop” Doesn’t Work for Addiction + Jenni
Monday, March 16, 2026
In this episode, Lacey sits down with life and recovery coach Jenni Hubby to talk about addiction, recovery, and God’s heart for those walking through it. Drawing from her own journey into sobriety and decades of experience helping others, Jenni explores common misconceptions Christians often have about addiction. Together they discuss why simply “stopping” a behavior is not the whole story, how faith and practical steps work together in recovery, and what it looks like to walk toward lasting healing and restored identity.| VIEW EPISODE & LINKS |
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STB161 | BSE | Hebrews 8.13-10.18 E2
Monday, January 26, 2026
BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott continue their study through Hebrews by confronting how easily believers drift back into external rules, self-effort, and spiritual performance. This episode presses into the heart of the gospel: Jesus didn’t partially replace the old covenant — he fulfilled and rendered it obsolete. The conversation exposes how law-based thinking (a life built on the 10 Commandments) still shapes worship, discipleship, and judgment today, and re-centers salvation as trusting Jesus’ finished work while living empowered by the Holy Spirit, not managed by religious systems. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode two.*| VIEW LINKS & NOTES |
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BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION (BSE) is a series within our podcast, Shoot the Breeze, that explores the Scriptures, Christianity, and the Church from a ministry leadership and pastoral perspective.
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We have several playlists of subjects we've discussed on our podcast. These playlists include:
FAITH In this playlist, Nathan and Phil explore faith as more than belief — it’s relational trust in the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and the Church. Each episode walks through how faith grows through surrender, obedience, and partnership with God. Together they uncover how faith transforms hardship into maturity, offense into reconciliation, and weakness into dependence on the Spirit. This series invites believers to see faith not as performance or perfection, but as a lifelong cultivation of intimacy and confidence in God’s goodness.
FORGIVENESS In this playlist, Nathan and Lacey unpack the messy, misunderstood process of forgiveness — what it really means, what it doesn’t, and why it’s essential for healing. They explore the difference between forgiveness, reconciliation, and restoration, as well as how true repentance involves both propitiation and restitution. In the final episode, they address the myth of “forgiving yourself” and offer a better path to freedom from shame and condemnation. This series is honest, practical, and rooted in biblical truth for anyone seeking wholeness in relationships and with God.
GNOSTICISM (& Jesus' Humanity) In this playlist, Nathan and _ tackle the lingering influence of Gnosticism—both in the early church and today. Through conversations on Jude 1–16, 1 John 4, and the nature of Jesus’ full humanity, they unpack how hidden Gnostic thinking still shapes modern Christian life. Together, they challenge believers to live out a faith that aligns with truth, reject both legalism and compromise, and embrace spiritual maturity, freedom, and victory in Jesus.
IDENTITY In this playlist, Nathan and _ explore identity not as something lost, but something distorted — and now being restored through Jesus. From image and worth, to corruption, redemption, restoration, and participation, the series traces how God never abandoned His design for humanity. Instead of labeling people as “broken at the core,” these conversations reveal how the Spirit rebuilds identity through truth, submission, and relationship. Identity isn’t earned or repaired by effort — it’s recovered as we align ourselves with God’s original purpose and ongoing work in us.
UNLOVE In this playlist, Phil Reeves interviews Nathan about the deeply personal journey and real-life experiences that inspired and shaped his book UnLove. Nathan opens up about living a double life and his addiction to pornography, facing public church discipline, walking through redemption with his wife and church, coming to terms with having a terminal disease, and the hard-earned lessons that shaped his theology. They explore topics like forgiveness, the tension between empathy and confronting sin, and how God uses brokenness for transformation and maturity. Nathan shares his honest struggles with accountability, apologizing, anger, unmet dreams, and how God's goodness and provision was revealed through it all. This series offers a raw, grace-filled look at spiritual growth, relational healing, and what it really means to mature in Jesus.
SALVATION In this playlist, Nathan and Phil reshape the conversation around salvation — not as a legal escape from sin, but as a relational restoration to the life God intended. Together they uncover how salvation frees us from rebellion and distortion while freeing us to live empowered by the Holy Spirit. Through Genesis, Luke 15, and Paul’s letters, the series explores redemption, repentance, renewal, and the ongoing transformation of believers. Salvation becomes more than a moment — it’s the daily journey of becoming fully alive in God’s design.
ROMANS 5-8 In this playlist, Nathan and _ walk through Romans 5–8, unpacking the journey from sin and struggle to freedom and glory in Jesus. They explore how faith in Jesus requires risk, maturity, and endurance, and define sin as anything that opposes our God-given design. Together, they examine our daily choice of lordship — whether to serve sin or walk in obedience to Jesus — and reveal how the kind of fruit we bear exposes who we truly follow. They tackle the tension of striving under the law without Jesus, and the freedom that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Romans 8 brings the hope of our adoption as children of God, the promise of future glory, and the assurance that nothing — except unbelief — can separate us from God's love. This series invites believers into a deeper understanding of grace, identity, and victory in Jesus
GALATIANS In this playlist, Nathan and _ walk through the book of Galatians, exploring Paul’s bold defense of the gospel and his call to spiritual maturity. From Paul’s personal story of redemption to confronting legalism and fear-based religion, they unpack how the Law was never God's final plan — Jesus was. These conversations highlight the difference between spiritual immaturity and Spirit-led freedom, exposing false gospels rooted in performance, pride, or approval-seeking. Real maturity means living by faith, walking in the Spirit, and embracing the generosity and freedom found only in Jesus.
PHILEMON In this playlist, Nathan and _ walk through the letter to Philemon, revealing how the gospel transforms relationships, community, and personal responsibility. From Paul’s greeting to Philemon, Apphia, Archippus, and their house church, to his bold request on behalf of Onesimus, the message is clear: gospel living is communal, sacrificial, and Spirit-empowered. They explore how true reconciliation requires both repentance and forgiveness, and how Paul models this by stepping in as a redeemer. Ultimately, Paul’s confidence in Philemon isn’t rooted in obligation but in transformation — the evidence of a life changed by the Gospel.
1-3 JOHN In this playlist, Nathan and _ journey through the letters of 1-3 John and the modern church’s quiet struggle with Gnostic thinking. They unpack how distorted views of sin, humanity, and holiness still shape Christian belief — and how Scripture calls us to something better. From exposing false teachings to embracing the full humanity of Jesus (while assuming his divinity), these conversations explore how joy, maturity, and spiritual victory come through truth, obedience, and love. Believers are challenged to reject rebellion, practice righteousness, and live empowered by the Spirit to reflect the heart of Jesus in a confused world.
JUDE In this playlist, Nathan and _ explore the subtle ways Gnosticism still shapes modern Christianity — often without us knowing it. Through conversations rooted in the book of Jude, they confront false teaching, legalism, progressive Christianity, and spiritual immaturity. Together, they unpack how believers can live lives that align with truth, walk in mercy, and lead others well by embracing Jesus' empowerment and rejecting distorted versions of the gospel.
REVELATION In this playlist, Nathan and Phil walk through the book of Revelation, cutting through fear-based interpretations and pop-culture confusion. They explore how John’s visions are rooted in Hebrew Scripture, often defined by the text itself through “hear” and “see” cues. From apocalyptic imagery and prophetic language to topics like the rapture, second coming, antichrist(s), and Daniel’s 70 weeks, they offer grounded, contextual insight that challenges sensationalism, futurism, and dispensationalism. Whether Revelation unfolds in linear or cyclical movements, the message is clear: Jesus is the fulfillment of Scripture, and the point of Revelation isn’t fear, but faithful understanding.
STB163 | 6 Months Later: Recovery, Humility, & Hope August 3, 2026
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey sit down six months after a season of Nathan’s failure and share an honest update on what God has been doing in their lives. They discuss repentance, recovery, counseling, accountability, learning to recognize vulnerability, and the importance of Nathan addressing root issues instead of just behaviors. They also reflect on the impact on their family, the humility they’ve gained, and the hope they’ve found as they continue walking the long road of healing together.
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STB162 | Why “Just Stop” Doesn’t Work for Addiction + Jenni March 16, 2026
In this episode, Lacey sits down with life and recovery coach Jenni Hubby to talk about addiction, recovery, and God’s heart for those walking through it. Drawing from her own journey into sobriety and decades of experience helping others, Jenni explores common misconceptions Christians often have about addiction. Together they discuss why simply “stopping” a behavior is not the whole story, how faith and practical steps work together in recovery, and what it looks like to walk toward lasting healing and restored identity.
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Announcement & Prayer Request February 6, 2026
There is no easy way to start this description. So I will get right into it.
On January 16, 2026, it came to light that I had been engaging in inappropriate conversations with a woman and with chatbots through apps and texting, seeking and soliciting inappropriate images. Our daughters first discovered this, and in that moment, I did not tell them the truth. It was only after several hours of conversation between Lacey and me that the full extent of what had been happening came to light.
This is in addition to something we shared with our board in the fall of 2025 — that I had returned to pornography for about 9 months after experiencing sixteen years of freedom.
There is no excuse for the choices I made. They were sinful, manipulative, deceptive, and deeply hurtful to my wife and girls. Bringing this into the light is incredibly painful and embarrassing to my ...VIEW EPISODE
STB149 | BSE | Salvation: Our Origin November 3, 2025
BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Phil kick off a new four-part series on Salvation, exploring what it means to be rescued, restored, and made new through Jesus. They unpack how salvation is more than escaping sin or judgment — it’s about relational redemption, daily transformation, and becoming who the Father always designed us to be. This conversation redefines salvation as the starting point of a life lived in partnership with God, not merely a ticket to heaven.
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STB148 | BSE | Faith: The Church October 27, 2025
BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Phil wrap up the discussion on Faith in discussing the Church, exploring what it means to trust God’s design for His body even when people fail us. Through personal stories and Scripture, they unpack leadership wounds, offense, and the enduring promise of Jesus in Matthew 16 — that his Church will prevail.
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STB144 | Leading Others through the Freedom Booklet – TFB:P11 September 29, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey equip listeners to walk others through the Freedom Booklet. They cover two practical formats — intentional one-on-one meetings and small groups (typically 2–4 participants) with a leader and co-leader — and share concrete best practices: set dates and timelines, provide accountability and simple hospitality (quiet space, coffee, childcare), keep leaders as facilitators (not counselors), enforce confidentiality and speaking rules, use the instructional videos, check in between sessions, and always allow the Holy Spirit to lead. It’s a practical, encouragement-filled guide for helping people move from stuck to free.
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STB143 | Planting Truth – TFB:P10 September 22, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey guide listeners through the last step of The Freedom Booklet, Step Nine: Receive and Replace — a transformative process of letting go of lies and replacing them with the Holy Spirit’s truth. Rather than simply releasing pain or sin, this step invites you to actively receive what Jesus is speaking over you, aligning your heart with His Word and stepping into lasting freedom. They explain how this isn’t just a cognitive shift but an invitation to action — hearing from God, walking in obedience, and marking the moment as a testimony of His work. This process closes the loop on the past and launches you forward into a future of hope and healing.
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STB142 | Releasing Control of the Harvest – TFB:P9 September 15, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey discuss Step Eight — release and blessing — the part of resolving sin, loss, and offense that often gets overlooked but is essential to true freedom. Drawing from Matthew 5 and Romans 12, they show how the process of freedom is incomplete without releasing our expectations, debts, and hurts to God, whether in offense, loss, or personal sin. Release means surrendering control, shame, or unmet expectations and entrusting them fully to God’s justice and healing. But it doesn’t stop there — release flows into blessing, choosing to sacrificially pray for good even for those who have wounded us. As they share stories of transformation, they reveal how this process breaks bitterness, redirects our hearts, and opens the door to healing, freedom, and restored perspective in Jesus.
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STB141 | Pulling Weeds of Bitterness – TFB:P8 September 8, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey step into the hard but freeing process of forgiveness. Scripture makes it clear that forgiving others is not optional, yet it often feels impossible. Forgiveness is more than ignoring the hurt or pretending it didn’t happen — it’s canceling the debt someone owes us and releasing them, even when what they did was real and painful. Through practical steps and honest reflection, you’ll learn how forgiveness reorients your heart, releases expectations, and opens the door for God’s healing power to work in your life. Discover how choosing forgiveness — even when it feels like obedience without emotion — creates space for true freedom.
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STB140 | Turning the Heart Soil – TFB:P7 September 1, 2025
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey explore Jesus’ parable of the unforgiving servant and how it reveals our tendency to demand payment from others when we fail to rest in God’s forgiveness. They discuss the real meaning of repentance — more than admitting fault, it’s a Spirit-led reorientation of our hearts toward God. Therefore, true repentance acknowledges not only our outward actions but also the unhealthy thoughts and attitudes we’ve carried. Through confession and surrender, we invite God’s cleansing, release the grip of unforgiveness, and step into healing. This conversation shows that repentance is not punishment but freedom — the path where brokenness gives way to a restored relationship with God and others.
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