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— Playlist: Unlove —

In this playlist, Phil Reeves interviews Nathan about the deeply personal journey and real-life experiences that inspired and shaped his book UnLove. Nathan opens up about living a double life and his addiction to pornography, facing public church discipline, walking through redemption with his wife and church, coming to terms with having a terminal disease, and the hard-earned lessons that shaped his theology. They explore topics like forgiveness, the tension between empathy and confronting sin, and how God uses brokenness for transformation and maturity. Nathan shares his honest struggles with accountability, apologizing, anger, unmet dreams, and how God's goodness and provision was revealed through it all. This series offers a raw, grace-filled look at spiritual growth, relational healing, and what it really means to mature in Jesus.


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STB110 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E1 February 4, 2025STB110 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E1Phil Reeves interviews Nathan to uncover the real-life stories that inspired his book UnLove. In this heartfelt conversation, Nathan shares the personal experiences, struggles, and lessons that shaped the principles outlined in the book. From moments of heartbreak to breakthroughs of grace, he offers an honest look at the theology woven into each chapter, revealing the raw and relatable journey behind its creation. This discussion is a powerful glimpse into the connection between Nathan’s own story and the message of UnLove. *Please note, this discussion takes place in three episodes. This is episode one.* VIEW EPISODE

STB111 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E2 February 11, 2025STB111 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E2In this second part, Phil Reeves continues interviewing Nathan, where he opens up about the weight of living a double life in his addiction to pornography, the pain of public church discipline after being a youth pastor who went to a strip club, and the redemption he and Lacey walked through with their church. He also explores the danger of expecting others to fully understand our story, the balance between empathy and clarity in ministry, and how his struggles have shaped the way he helps others on their journey to healing. *Please note, this discussion takes place in three episodes. This is episode two.* VIEW EPISODE

STB112 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E3 February 18, 2025STB112 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E3In this third part, Phil Reeves continues interviewing Nathan, where he dives into his struggle with people apologizing, why he hates accountability partners, and the devotionals that have shaped him. He shares his journey of learning to feel, wrestling with anger, trusting in God’s goodness, and the male role models who influenced his life. This honest conversation explores the challenges of personal growth, faith, and the people who shape Nathan along the way. *Please note, this discussion takes place in three episodes. This is episode three.* VIEW EPISODE

STB113 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E1 February 25, 2025STB113 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E1Nathan talks with Phil about his dream of church planting — and how Lacey devastatingly crushed it. He reflects on key “waypoints” in his journey to freedom and writing UnLove, the shifting seasons of relationships, and his struggle with appreciating apologies. They also explore how God uses, and sometimes orchestrates, tragedy for our growth, the age of accountability, and the weight of our expectations on others. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode one.* VIEW EPISODE

STB114 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E2 March 3, 2025STB114 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E2Nathan and Phil dive into the tensions of growth — navigating confrontation, grace in freedom versus judgment in addiction, and forgiving repeat offenders. They discuss mediation, reconciliation, appropriate vulnerability, and what the fruit of the Spirit looks like in real life. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode two.* VIEW EPISODE