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SHOOT THE BREEZE

Our podcast celebrates the messiness of life, relationships, and Christianity. Mostly, it is us shooting the breeze (sometimes with guests) while occasionally saying something important. We hope you enjoy!


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STB113 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E1 February 25, 2025STB113 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P2:E1Nathan talks with Phil about his dream of church planting — and how Lacey devastatingly crushed it. He reflects on key “waypoints” in his journey to freedom and writing UnLove, the shifting seasons of relationships, and his struggle with appreciating apologies. They also explore how God uses, and sometimes orchestrates, tragedy for our growth, the age of accountability, and the weight of our expectations on others. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode one.* VIEW EPISODE

STB112 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E3 February 18, 2025STB112 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E3In this third part, Phil Reeves continues interviewing Nathan, where he dives into his struggle with people apologizing, why he hates accountability partners, and the devotionals that have shaped him. He shares his journey of learning to feel, wrestling with anger, trusting in God’s goodness, and the male role models who influenced his life. This honest conversation explores the challenges of personal growth, faith, and the people who shape Nathan along the way. *Please note, this discussion takes place in three episodes. This is episode three.* VIEW EPISODE

STB111 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E2 February 11, 2025STB111 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E2In this second part, Phil Reeves continues interviewing Nathan, where he opens up about the weight of living a double life in his addiction to pornography, the pain of public church discipline after being a youth pastor who went to a strip club, and the redemption he and Lacey walked through with their church. He also explores the danger of expecting others to fully understand our story, the balance between empathy and clarity in ministry, and how his struggles have shaped the way he helps others on their journey to healing. *Please note, this discussion takes place in three episodes. This is episode two.* VIEW EPISODE

STB110 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E1 February 4, 2025STB110 | Behind the Pages of UnLove + Phil P1:E1Phil Reeves interviews Nathan to uncover the real-life stories that inspired his book UnLove. In this heartfelt conversation, Nathan shares the personal experiences, struggles, and lessons that shaped the principles outlined in the book. From moments of heartbreak to breakthroughs of grace, he offers an honest look at the theology woven into each chapter, revealing the raw and relatable journey behind its creation. This discussion is a powerful glimpse into the connection between Nathan’s own story and the message of UnLove. *Please note, this discussion takes place in three episodes. This is episode one.* VIEW EPISODE

STB109 | Coping & Resolving Loss + Sarah P2:E2 January 28, 2025STB109 | Coping & Resolving Loss + Sarah P2:E2Nathan continues his conversation with his friend, Sarah Frerking, where she vulnerably shares her journey through the devastating experiences of miscarriages and the loss of their firstborn son, Josiah. In this powerful discussion, Sarah reflects on how she processed her grief, initially in unhealthy ways, but eventually discovered a path to healing. She speaks openly about how her grief journey transformed, ultimately leading her to a place of unexpected gratitude for Josiah’s death. This conversation offers profound insights into the complexities of grief, healing, and the hope that can emerge from even the deepest loss. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode two.* VIEW EPISODE

STB108 | Coping & Resolving Loss + Sarah P2:E1 January 21, 2025STB108 | Coping & Resolving Loss + Sarah P2:E1Nathan continues his conversation with his friend, Sarah Frerking, where she vulnerably shares her journey through the devastating experiences of miscarriages and the loss of their firstborn son, Josiah. In this powerful discussion, Sarah reflects on how she processed her grief, initially in unhealthy ways, but eventually discovered a path to healing. She speaks openly about how her grief journey transformed, ultimately leading her to a place of unexpected gratitude for Josiah’s death. This conversation offers profound insights into the complexities of grief, healing, and the hope that can emerge from even the deepest loss. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode one.* VIEW EPISODE

STB107 | Grieving the Loss of a Child + Sarah P1 January 14, 2025STB107 | Grieving the Loss of a Child + Sarah P1Nathan talks with Sarah Frerking about the heartbreak of her miscarriages and losing her firstborn, Josiah. She opens up about the raw, overwhelming emotions of grief and the difficult, messy process of navigating devastating loss. She shares how she and her husband, Scott Frerking, held tightly to a hope-filled but painful faith, even in the face of unanswered prayers and shattered expectations. Their journey reveals both the depths of their sorrow and the resilience of their trust in God amid profound heartbreak. VIEW EPISODE

STB106 | BSE | Christmas: It’s Christian Origins December 24, 2024STB106 | BSE | Christmas: It's Christian OriginsBIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about Christmas and its origins. They also discuss several Christmas traditions and why traditions are important to communities. VIEW EPISODE

STB105 | BSE | Incarnation: Jesus + Flesh P2 December 18, 2024STB105 | BSE | Incarnation: Jesus + Flesh P2BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Scott Frerking about the incarnation of Jesus — God becoming real humanity. They discuss how the New Testament reveals the fulfilled Hebrew prophesies of a real flesh-and-blood human messiah. VIEW EPISODE

STB104 | Fathers + Phil December 16, 2024STB104 | Fathers + PhilNathan shoots the breeze with Phil Reeves about the importance of our fathers and our need to resolve deficiencies and offenses that our fathers demonstrate toward us in our growing-up years. He also shares his journey with God the Father and how he resolved his distorted perceptions of Him. VIEW EPISODE