SHOOT THE BREEZE
Our podcast celebrates the messiness of life, relationships, and Christianity. Mostly, it is us shooting the breeze (sometimes with guests) while occasionally saying something important. We hope you enjoy!
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STB162 | STB162 | Why “Just Stop” Doesn’t Work for Addiction + Jenni
Monday, March 16, 2026
In this episode, Lacey sits down with life and recovery coach Jenni Hubby to talk about addiction, recovery, and God’s heart for those walking through it. Drawing from her own journey into sobriety and decades of experience helping others, Jenni explores common misconceptions Christians often have about addiction. Together they discuss why simply “stopping” a behavior is not the whole story, how faith and practical steps work together in recovery, and what it looks like to walk toward lasting healing and restored identity.| VIEW EPISODE & LINKS |
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STB161 | BSE | Hebrews 8.13-10.18 E2
Monday, January 26, 2026
BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION – Nathan and Pastor Scott continue their study through Hebrews by confronting how easily believers drift back into external rules, self-effort, and spiritual performance. This episode presses into the heart of the gospel: Jesus didn’t partially replace the old covenant — he fulfilled and rendered it obsolete. The conversation exposes how law-based thinking (a life built on the 10 Commandments) still shapes worship, discipleship, and judgment today, and re-centers salvation as trusting Jesus’ finished work while living empowered by the Holy Spirit, not managed by religious systems. *Please note, this discussion takes place in two episodes. This is episode two.*| VIEW LINKS & NOTES |
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BIBLE SCHOOL EDITION (BSE) is a series within our podcast, Shoot the Breeze, that explores the Scriptures, Christianity, and the Church from a ministry leadership and pastoral perspective.
PODCAST PLAYLISTS
We have several playlists of subjects we've discussed on our podcast. These playlists include:
FAITH In this playlist, Nathan, Pastor Scott, and Phil explore faith as more than belief — it’s relational trust in the Father, Son, Holy Spirit, and the Church. Each episode walks through how faith grows through surrender, obedience, and partnership with God. Together they uncover how faith transforms hardship into maturity, offense into reconciliation, and weakness into dependence on the Spirit. This series invites believers to see faith not as performance or perfection, but as a lifelong cultivation of intimacy and confidence in God’s goodness.
FORGIVENESS In this playlist, Nathan and Lacey unpack the messy, misunderstood process of forgiveness — what it really means, what it doesn’t, and why it’s essential for healing. They explore the difference between forgiveness, reconciliation, and restoration, as well as how true repentance involves both propitiation and restitution. In the final episode, they address the myth of “forgiving yourself” and offer a better path to freedom from shame and condemnation. This series is honest, practical, and rooted in biblical truth for anyone seeking wholeness in relationships and with God.
GNOSTICISM (& Jesus' Humanity) In this playlist, Nathan and Pastor Scott tackle the lingering influence of Gnosticism—both in the early church and today. Through conversations on Jude 1–16, 1 John 4, and the nature of Jesus’ full humanity, they unpack how hidden Gnostic thinking still shapes modern Christian life. Together, they challenge believers to live out a faith that aligns with truth, reject both legalism and compromise, and embrace spiritual maturity, freedom, and victory in Jesus.
IDENTITY In this playlist, Nathan and Pastor Scott explore identity not as something lost, but something distorted — and now being restored through Jesus. From image and worth, to corruption, redemption, restoration, and participation, the series traces how God never abandoned His design for humanity. Instead of labeling people as “broken at the core,” these conversations reveal how the Spirit rebuilds identity through truth, submission, and relationship. Identity isn’t earned or repaired by effort — it’s recovered as we align ourselves with God’s original purpose and ongoing work in us.
UNLOVE In this playlist, Phil Reeves interviews Nathan about the deeply personal journey and real-life experiences that inspired and shaped his book UnLove. Nathan opens up about living a double life and his addiction to pornography, facing public church discipline, walking through redemption with his wife and church, coming to terms with having a terminal disease, and the hard-earned lessons that shaped his theology. They explore topics like forgiveness, the tension between empathy and confronting sin, and how God uses brokenness for transformation and maturity. Nathan shares his honest struggles with accountability, apologizing, anger, unmet dreams, and how God's goodness and provision was revealed through it all. This series offers a raw, grace-filled look at spiritual growth, relational healing, and what it really means to mature in Jesus.
SALVATION In this playlist, Nathan, Pastor Scott, and Phil reshape the conversation around salvation — not as a legal escape from sin, but as a relational restoration to the life God intended. Together they uncover how salvation frees us from rebellion and distortion while freeing us to live empowered by the Holy Spirit. Through Genesis, Luke 15, and Paul’s letters, the series explores redemption, repentance, renewal, and the ongoing transformation of believers. Salvation becomes more than a moment — it’s the daily journey of becoming fully alive in God’s design.
ROMANS 5-8 In this playlist, Nathan and Pastor Scott walk through Romans 5–8, unpacking the journey from sin and struggle to freedom and glory in Jesus. They explore how faith in Jesus requires risk, maturity, and endurance, and define sin as anything that opposes our God-given design. Together, they examine our daily choice of lordship — whether to serve sin or walk in obedience to Jesus — and reveal how the kind of fruit we bear exposes who we truly follow. They tackle the tension of striving under the law without Jesus, and the freedom that comes only through the Holy Spirit. Romans 8 brings the hope of our adoption as children of God, the promise of future glory, and the assurance that nothing — except unbelief — can separate us from God's love. This series invites believers into a deeper understanding of grace, identity, and victory in Jesus.
GALATIANS In this playlist, Nathan and Pastor Scott walk through the book of Galatians, exploring Paul’s bold defense of the gospel and his call to spiritual maturity. From Paul’s personal story of redemption to confronting legalism and fear-based religion, they unpack how the Law was never God's final plan — Jesus was. These conversations highlight the difference between spiritual immaturity and Spirit-led freedom, exposing false gospels rooted in performance, pride, or approval-seeking. Real maturity means living by faith, walking in the Spirit, and embracing the generosity and freedom found only in Jesus.
PHILEMON In this playlist, Nathan and Pastor Scott walk through the letter to Philemon, revealing how the gospel transforms relationships, community, and personal responsibility. From Paul’s greeting to Philemon, Apphia, Archippus, and their house church, to his bold request on behalf of Onesimus, the message is clear: gospel living is communal, sacrificial, and Spirit-empowered. They explore how true reconciliation requires both repentance and forgiveness, and how Paul models this by stepping in as a redeemer. Ultimately, Paul’s confidence in Philemon isn’t rooted in obligation but in transformation — the evidence of a life changed by the Gospel.
1-3 JOHN In this playlist, Nathan and Pastor Scott journey through the letters of 1-3 John and the modern church’s quiet struggle with Gnostic thinking. They unpack how distorted views of sin, humanity, and holiness still shape Christian belief — and how Scripture calls us to something better. From exposing false teachings to embracing the full humanity of Jesus (while assuming his divinity), these conversations explore how joy, maturity, and spiritual victory come through truth, obedience, and love. Believers are challenged to reject rebellion, practice righteousness, and live empowered by the Spirit to reflect the heart of Jesus in a confused world.
JUDE In this playlist, Nathan and Pastor Scott explore the subtle ways Gnosticism still shapes modern Christianity — often without us knowing it. Through conversations rooted in the book of Jude, they confront false teaching, legalism, progressive Christianity, and spiritual immaturity. Together, they unpack how believers can live lives that align with truth, walk in mercy, and lead others well by embracing Jesus' empowerment and rejecting distorted versions of the gospel.
REVELATION In this playlist, Nathan and Phil walk through the book of Revelation, cutting through fear-based interpretations and pop-culture confusion. They explore how John’s visions are rooted in Hebrew Scripture, often defined by the text itself through “hear” and “see” cues. From apocalyptic imagery and prophetic language to topics like the rapture, second coming, antichrist(s), and Daniel’s 70 weeks, they offer grounded, contextual insight that challenges sensationalism, futurism, and dispensationalism. Whether Revelation unfolds in linear or cyclical movements, the message is clear: Jesus is the fulfillment of Scripture, and the point of Revelation isn’t fear, but faithful understanding.
STB023 | Accountability June 9, 2021
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about accountability partners. *SPOILER ALERT* They do not like them. But they do talk about something that has been proven very effective for changing unhealthy mindsets and habits. Also, they fight about their new studio/office arrangement.
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STB022 | Decisions June 2, 2021
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about how they make decisions. Lacey tells the story of how they pursued her healthcare and surgery (and the decisions they made along the way). They also decide how they will parent their girls right before your ears.
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STB021 | Random May 26, 2021
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze by asking each other random questions. From politics to childhood fears, they ask questions from a book they used to get to know each other while they were dating.
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STB020 | Messy May 19, 2021
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey shoot the breeze about their ideal dates, how the Holy Spirit has been speaking to them lately, and — for the first time in their marriage — how God has been calling them in directions for this season of life.
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STB019 | Ministry + Pastor Jason May 12, 2021
In this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Pastor Jason Teague, a United Methodist Pastor. They discuss the apprehensions of getting into full-time ministry. You can learn more about Jason by visiting: https://burnetmethodist.org/
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STB018 | Infertility May 5, 2021
In this episode, Nathan and Lacey share their struggle with infertility, along with some of the more common inappropriate things they hear about adoption. This episode will be encouraging to those struggling with infertility and secondary infertility. Also, this discussion will help you know what to say to someone struggling with infertility.
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STB017 | Depression + Jordan April 28, 2021
In this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Jordan Cornelius, a former Marine and a personal student of N.T. Wright. They talk about depression, the importance of mental health, and how the Spirit of God helps them.
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STB016 | Time + Pastor Donna April 21, 2021
In this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Donna Shaw, pastor, ministry director, and the Chief Operations Officer of the business she and her husband own. She’s a wife, homeschool mom, and so much more. They discuss time management, how she develops volunteers, and how she sets realistic goals for herself. They also share a hobby they mutually enjoy — wearing costumes. You can learn more about her at her website: https://weakdayministries.com/
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STB015 | Struggles + Cate April 14, 2021
In this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with Cate Morris, an author, speaker, worship leader, and evangelist. She and her husband, Jamin, are commercial fishermen in Homer, Alaska. They discuss her new book, Beyond the Siege. Nathan read her book during one of the darkest seasons of his entire life. While there were many contributing factors to his freedom, Cate’s book was the catalyst of hope that reinforced the truth that he is not alone. You can learn more about her at her website: https://catemorris.com/
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STB014 | Siblings + The Steel Brothers April 7, 2021
In this episode, Nathan shoots the breeze with his older brothers, Jeremy and Josh Steel. This is the only episode that had to be edited due to how breezy it was. In the middle of all the jokes, sarcasm, and laughing, they discuss what it has taken for them to have a healthy relationship. Also, Nathan’s brothers share their perspective on growing up with a brother who has a terminal disease. They also advise parents and siblings of those who have an illness.
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